Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/28/1994 01:37 PM Senate JUD

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 JUD - 3/28/94                                                                 
 SENATOR TAYLOR brought  SJR 8  (CAPITAL PROJECTS/EXPENDITURE LIMIT)           
 before the committee as the next order of business.                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS explained the legislation is basically a               
 spending limit plan.  It sets the limit at $2.3 billion from FY 95            
 through the year 2000.  The only exceptions to the spending limit             
 would be the appropriations to the permanent fund, permanent fund             
 dividends, budget reserves, revenues from taxes approved by voters,           
 bond proceeds, principal and interest on bonds issued by the state,           
 money received in trust for a specific purpose, endowment earnings,           
 and reserves from public corporations.                                        
                                                                               
 The limit cannot be exceeded unless there is two-thirds affirmative           
 vote of both the House and the Senate.  If inflation exceeds 6                
 percent, the Legislature may appropriate an amount to offset the              
 effect of inflation that exceeds 6 percent.  Any revenues in excess           
 of the expenditure limit will be deposited in the constitutional              
 budget reserve account.                                                       
                                                                               
 It also requires that at least 10 percent of all money appropriated           
 for each fiscal year be appropriated for capital projects and                 
 loans.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 360                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if this would have an effect on the last three           
 years' budget cycles.  SENATOR PHILLIPS answered it would have an             
 effect on both last year and this year.                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if it was realistic to try to obtain a                   
 spending limitation at this level.  SENATOR PHILLIPS acknowledged             
 it was, because in the future, the state will be at that point                
 whether this is in place or not.  SENATOR TAYLOR responded that               
 wasn't necessarily true, because the Legislature could start                  
 spending money out of different accounts that are still readily               
 available for appropriation.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 390                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE, referring to the inflation factor, asked if this              
 legislation takes into account that fact that everything will cost            
 more.  SENATOR PHILLIPS answered that right now inflation is about            
 at 3 percent and this allows for an upper cap of 6 percent.  If it            
 goes over that, the Legislature may appropriate an amount to offset           
 the effect of inflation that exceeds 6 percent.  SENATOR TAYLOR               
 pointed out that if the inflation rate were at 5 percent, his                 
 formula would not allow for any adjustment to take that 5 percent             
 into consideration.  SENATOR LITTLE said she had some real concerns           
 with school districts and everybody else in the state having to eat           
 the cost of inflation without severely damaging programs.  SENATOR            
 PHILLIPS stated he would not have a problem with amending that                
 language.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 420                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY made a motion that on page 1, line 7, to change the            
 money appropriated for capital projects and loans from 10 percent             
 to 5 percent.  SENATOR JACKO objected, stating that capital                   
 projects are more important in some parts of the state than others,           
 and making it less is not reflective of that.  The roll was taken             
 with the following result:  Senator Donley voted "Yea" and Senators           
 Taylor, Halford, Jacko and Little voted "Nay."  The Chairman stated           
 the motion failed.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 480                                                                    
                                                                               
 After further discussion on the inflation factor, SENATOR TAYLOR              
 moved that page 2, lines 14 and 15, replace "6" with "3."  Hearing            
 no objection, the amendment was adopted.                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY asked where the state's share of local school                  
 construction projects fits in.  SENATOR PHILLIPS answered that it             
 isn't in here, it is part of the operating budget, and he wouldn't            
 be opposed to adding that to the 10 percent capital projects                  
 budget.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 520                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR JACKO asked what percentage was appropriated last year for            
 capital projects.  SENATOR PHILLIPS estimated it was close to 25              
 percent.                                                                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR JACKO moved that on page 1, line 7, change "10 percent" to            
 "25 percent."  SENATOR LITTLE objected.  The roll was taken with              
 the following result:  Senator Jacko voted "Yea" and Senators                 
 Taylor, Halford, Donley and Little voted "Nay."  The amendment                
 failed.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 545                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR moved that on page 1, line 12, and on page 2, line             
 9, change "1995" to "1996" and change "2000" to "2001" and on page            
 2, line 25, change "2000" to "2001."  Hearing no objection, the               
 amendment was adopted.                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY asked what the interplay was between this amendment            
 and the existing Article IX, Section 16, and why not just eliminate           
 it.  SENATOR PHILLIPS suggested a repealer could be put in saying             
 that if this is approved that section could be repealed.  SENATOR             
 DONLEY commented he thought it is more preferable to put this on              
 the books and just get rid of Section 16, which is the old spending           
 limitation.                                                                   
                                                                               
 TAPE 94-26, SIDE B                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 015                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY moved a conceptual amendment that the resolution               
 would repeal Article IX, Section 16 of the Constitution of the                
 State of Alaska.  SENATOR HALFORD amended the conceptual amendment            
 that the resolution should be redrafted so that it becomes a                  
 replacement for the existing Article 18, Section 16.  Hearing no              
 objection, the conceptual amendment was adopted.                              
                                                                               
 Number 040                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR stated that after a committee substitute                       
 incorporating the amendments was drafted, SJR 8 would be back                 
 before the committee for final action.                                        

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